My Dance Lovers,
I hope you have found your hot Thursday in July well…
I found myself talking with Elizabeth Streb this afternoon, watching an open rehearsal of STREB:FORCES, and witnessing a wonderful talk between Garth Fagan and Elizabeth Streb.
There is just so much to talk about here in tonight’s post…so much to distill. I would like to first focus on tonight’s discussion between Elizabeth and Garth. Both are alums of SUNY Brockport, both either now call or once called Rochester their home, and both have a huge respect and knowledge for each others work. Their appreciation for one another as creators in their field of movement was admirable and absolutely beautiful to witness.

Elizabeth Streb
I think that the audience assumed quite a bit about the opposition between these two choreographers, but rather than represent the expected polarity, Streb and Fagan offered up the similarities and appreciations. As Mr. Fagan exclaimed, “You can’t eat strawberries all the time, sometimes you want blueberries or pineapple. We are all different flavors of…expression.”
By no means did this meeting of the minds disappoint due to concurring thoughts, rather, it was lively due to the vibrancy for what they make and what they do. To me, this represents an intellectual exchange of support and fascination. Dance cannot exist without community, and I am glad to see such support given and received.
I thought Moderator Deborah Ronnen asked excellent questions and you could see how personally interested she was in talking with the artists. The posed subject of the evening was “What is Dance?”, but Ronnen then asked how important it was to actually define dance?
“I did not enter the field (of dance) to challenge it.” Remarked Streb. She then went on to discuss her interest in modern dance as a freshmen in college. “I thought, naively perhaps, that modern dance was about increasing the vocabulary of movement-individually dancer by dancer.” Being that her background is in downhill skiing and motorcycles, one can begin to understand the influence of motion extenders such as her gizmos and harnesses she employs-as well as her dancers.
“The bigger the better, I always say. Bigger bodies affect space…with all due respect, Balanchine eviscerated the female body. Every time I go to a ballet, which is not that often, I think: Put. Her. Down.” The crowd roared with laughter and applause.Which is what is so truly compelling about Elizabeth. She connects with people through her ideas of action, her expression of action, and her words.

Garth Fagan
On the subject of risk and dancers, Fagan is a beautiful appreciator of the dancer.”I studied from the best,” he said. “I wanted to see people dancing on stage, not dancers portraying people. Simple human beings dancing.” No doubt this is perhaps in reaction to his training with Martha herself. Fagan’s dancers span the ages of 20-58 and come in all shapes and sizes. He asks that they are vulnerable, willing to take risks, and perhaps above all, be expert musicians.
“And not the old fashioned doot doot doot musicians. I’m talking REAL musical ability.”
Streb chimed in to explain perhaps it was her lack of ability in music, because she couldn’t figure out how to count music and still be true to the movement. Ah, a difference arises, but we do not dwell here long, because perhaps we now want to sample the cherries or the kiwi fruit?
As a dancer/choreographer, I found myself inspired to look at movement and even flight and question my own definitions. I like that these artists do not claim to know-they just make to understand what they think they know. I admit, primary to my writing is my dancing, and tonight I feel like moving my whole body rather than just my tapping fingers and furrowed brow.
Here are my favorite quotes from the evening:
On Harm and embracing danger:
“I’m interested in representing the experience of the common person…We agree to get hurt when we walk into the studio…When you are poor, you can’t keep harm away from you.” -Elizabeth Streb
On Subject and Content:
“The work must have some spiritual moment in it…Allow people to be exactly who. they. are.” -Garth Fagan (and immense cheering from the crowd following this statement.)
“Action is the subject. I want to dramatisize the action moment…Action is episodic, not durational.”-Elizabeth Streb
“Why do we say, ‘there is a horse galloping’, rather than-and this would be my dream-’there is gallop.’”-Elizabeth Streb
In closing Ronnen read from a past artist reminding present artists: “I can’t understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I’m frightened by the old ones”. The always remarkable John Cage.
Thank you Elizabeth and Garth.
by MECdance
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